<TITLE>07. Par 19-21</TITLE>L-19 And he said; he said, "Well," said, "I want to tell you something."
I said, "You mean a man can live out here in this beautiful place and tell me you don't believe in God?"
He said, "No, I believe it's just a story like you tell the children at Christmas time: Santa Claus."
I said, "Oh, no. You sure got on the wrong foot, buddy." I said, "I hate to disagree with you, but," I said, "I'll do it, because that I know that you're wrong and you're a human being; and you got just as much right to heaven as anyone else; and you just simply got your mental thinking cap on backwards, that's all." I said, "You're just not--got the thing fixed up right."
And he said, "Oh," said, "yes, I have; it's you the one's all mixed up."
I said, "Well, now is a good time we're by ourself; we got twenty miles of riding today." I said, "Plenty of time to think it over."

L-20 He said, "Well, I want to tell you something." He said, "The first place, it absolutely could not be so."
And I said, "But why couldn't it?"
And he said, "Well, we'll settle up the principle, the first of the virgin birth."
I said, "That's just a good thing to talk about." I said, "You ever get the virgin birth straightened out, you got Christianity straightened out.
And he said, "Well, I want to tell you something." He said, "It's absolutely impossible for a female to bear without the contact of a male."
I said, "That's correct." I said, "I believe that."
Said, "Then how could this female, Mary, have a baby without being with a man?"
I said, "God was the Father of this baby."
And he said, "Well, how could it...? And you say God is a spirit..."
I said, "That's what He is. And He--He was the One Who created the blood cell in the womb of the woman that brought forth the Son Christ Jesus."
He said, "Oh, impossible." Said, "It's impossible." Said, "The woman is just a little slip up." Like one of the fine... I've got a book at home talking of a fine Baptist seminary who teaches the same thing today; that Jesus Christ is a German soldier's son, that Mary was absolutely--and that's from a seminary now. Now you can see how far away from God they're getting. That's right.

L-21 And said, "It--it was all possible that that was true. And being illegitimate, given his wits and so forth like that, and you know, and lot of the artist think he had blond hair, and so forth like that," the think that He...?... so forth. Said, "It's every bit a lie."
So I said, "I want to ask you something." I said, "You mean that--that God couldn't create that blood cell?"
He said, "No. First place, there is no such a thing as God." And he give me his theory of it (You know.), about how the moon and stars come together, and the sun, the "Ethics of Darwin," and how that the evolution started. And all these little polliwogs that begin to lose their tails, and they got legs and they begin to walk, and...
I said, "Well, what ever happened if all--some of them become men, what happened to the polliwog then? There wouldn't be any more polliwogs." So, he said... I said, "I want to ask you something. Will you believe... Will admit to me now, that this Baby, Jesus, had a mother. We know that, according to the writings. We seen according to the Bible. Now, He had a mother. But it's absolutely, unscientific to say that He could be born without she had contact with an earthly man?"
He said, "That's exactly right."
I said, "I want to ask you something then. How did the first man get here without father or mother?" Let it be tadpole, or monkey, whatever you want it to be?" According to your statement, he had to have a father and a mother."


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